The Fish
for 3 June 1997. Updated every WEEKDAY.
Suck Staff

Joey Anuff
Joey Anuff


Terry Colon
Terry Colon
Art Director


Ana Marie Cox
Ana Marie Cox
Executive Editor


T. Jay (the man) Fowler
T. Jay Fowler
Production Manager
& Ass Kicker


Heather Havrilesky
Heather Havrilesky
Senior Editor

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Carl Steadman
Carl Steadman


Sean (Duuuuude) Welch
Sean Welch


Owen Thomas
Owen Thomas
Copy Editor


Matt Beer
Matt Beer
Development Manager

Hit and Run

"If They need to sic the vice
president's daughter on us,
you know something stinks."

Especially when she offers
tidbits like this:

"Although Usenet newsgroups -
a hotbed of discussion on the
topic - may be accessed by
members only,"

Maybe it works that way on the
Microsoft Network.

I don't engage in newbie
bashing, but she is trying to
pass herself off as a

Keep on Sucking,

David Dasinger

Hey, those Usenet memberships
can get pretty expensive.

Maybe if she just admitted she
was a complete hack with a
good connection then she'd be
immune to criticism. It works
for us.

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Irresistible Offer


I hope this is going to right

I am writing to ask you what
you are planning to do with
your domain name. It is my
understanding that you are a
vacuum cleaner company. Well
do you really think it's
appropriate to use the term
"suck" to refer to your
product? I'm sure you take
pride in your work, and would
not like it to be associated
with such an unrefined word.
I have been online for over
seven years and know that a
poorly chosen domain name can
affect your perception in the
online world.

So if you would agree, I can
purchase the domain name for
the price you paid, and offer
my services to help you
choose a new domain name that
is more appropriate.

Thank you, Bryce Celina

Something more "more
appropriate" than Suck? If
only there were such a

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Filler: Urban Hipsters

It's nice to know how times
haven't changed my hometown.
Your article reminded me of
playing all those dingy SF
clubs like The Savoy Tivoli,
Mabuhay Gardens, The On
Broadway, etc., etc....
Everyone still sounds the
same in the pursuit of
"absolute" hipness. Even the
music from that era has come
around again! Can't wait for
the next installment from
your acerbic pen!

Colin Chin

More proof that the roots of
alienation lie as much in
ignorance as in scorn (see
also: sour grapes). Five
years in San Francisco and I
haven't heard of a single one
of those clubs. I guess I
abandoned the pursuit of
absolute hipness long ago
(see also: "I Don't Care What Other People Think"). Either that
or I've had my head in the
sand. Unfortunately, just
as disgust with
pseudointellectuals can turn
you away from cultural
anthropology or literary
theory at an early age,
there's a fine line between
willfully avoiding hipness
and fostering ignorance.

Still dumb and out of touch,


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I thought your rant was great.
(I won't say it was hip cause
I'm not sure if it was and if
I said it was and it wasn't
then everyone else who may or
may not be hip might think I
wasn't). But don't get me
wrong, I can think for

Having grown up in the '60s
and having been a "real"
rebel against society I can
say I learned two things
about being hip. First it's
not about being hip. It's
about being different. And if
you're different, half the
people will think you're cool
and the other half will rag
on you mercilessly. But there
is no middle of the road. The
only problem is in my day you
knew exactly what normal
society was. Now - who knows?
I mean, I protested against
the war, and took acid ...
but now I consider having a
401(k) plan subversive. Hey,
you're a hippy, it's your

What was the second thing I
learned? Don't ever use the
"in my generation" statement.
It's a sure sign that you're
ready for the rocking chair.
I may not have a tattoo or a
ring in some weird part of my
body but from time to time
you'll still see me blasting
down the freeway, exceeding
the speed limit, windows
open, with the stereo at
ear-damaging levels. The
song? "We Don't Get Fooled
Again!! No No No...."

Gotta go (Gonna surf the Net.

Clinton Tillman

Thanks for writing, Clinton.
In my generation, not only
don't we exceed the speed
limit or set the stereo to
ear-damaging levels in
pursuit of "real" rebel
status, we generally try to
avoid "talking 'bout my
generation." Or listening to
The Who, for that matter.

Certain that we will get
fooled again,


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