It's Black History Month. You've been running two series
on your site: one disputing Henry Louis Gates' Wonders
of the African World TV show and another linking "black
morality" with AIDS. Any thoughts for February?
This is just another example of the new religion in America,
which is worshipping blacks. This is the new religion in this
country. January is dedicated to Martin Luther King's
birthday. February is Black History Month. April we spend the
whole month mourning his assassination. August we spend the
whole month reflecting on his "I have a dream" speech in 1963.
This is unbelievable. What in the world is so great about
Martin Luther King? It's just a question that I have. Did he really
accomplish anything so spectacular? I mean, look at the results
of what he accomplished; look at what's happened to this
country. Wasn't this a better country before we had all these
horrible laws that turned our cities into urban jungles, before
we had the skyrocketing crime, the decline in morality, the
massive drug use? All these things happened after these
terrible laws were passed as a result of what he did. I think he
had a terrible influence on this country. I believe he was a
racist; I believe he was an anti-semite. And the fact that he gets
a holiday to himself, while all the presidents of the United States
put together get one day called Presidents' Day, is so obscene
there are no words for it. Not only that: Presidents' Day is
only a day for sales. That's the purpose of Presidents' Day. They'd
never dare have sales on Martin Luther King Day; it's so holy, so
sacred, we could never have sales. We have to remember the words
of Dr. King. It is absolutely obscene. I do not understand why
white America feels the need to stick their noses up black behind
all the time. I don't understand this. What are they so intimidated
by? What are blacks going to do if whites finally stand up and
have some backbone and say, "We've had enough of this."? What
are they going to do? Are they going to defeat the whites in a
war? That certainly didn't happen in colonial times. It certainly
didn't happen in South Africa, where 4 million whites held out
against hundreds of millions of blacks on the black continent. I
mean, this is ridiculous: What are white people so afraid of? Whites have
convinced themselves that there's something to be intimidated
about. This is what we desperately want to put an
end to. Enough is enough. This is a great country. White people
have a lot to be proud of. There is nothing for white people to
be ashamed of. We have to stop these guilt trips and stop this
apologizing that has been put upon us. Because white people
have done nothing wrong and, in fact, have bent over backwards
to be nice to people who are destroying the whole country. It's
about time that this ended, and that's what we would
like to do here.
When you say "we" are you referring to the JTF?
We're referring to followers of the late Rabbi
The JTF is proud to be the sole US representative of the
What are the Kahanists currently working on?
We have a campaign to prevent the Israeli dictator Ehud Barak
and he is a dictator; Israel is not a democracy, Israel is a country
where you go to prison for dissenting from government policy
to prevent the dictator Barak from giving away basically the whole
country. He wants to give away the Golan Heights to Syria, he wants to
give away Judea and Samaria to the PLO terrorists. That would
leave Israel with boundaries that are only 6 miles wide. That
would be absolutely suicidal. And we're doing everything we
can to prevent it. We have thousands of people who have formed
dozens of new communities in Judea and Samaria that Barak
calls illegal in order to create human obstacles on the ground.
Acting as human obstacles to prevent that surrender; and it's a
very difficult situation for Barak because he has to send in the
army and police to evict these people, and many Israelis don't
have the stomach for that. It's a very complex campaign, but
it is a campaign for the very survival of Israel, and even our
worst enemies on the left agree that we're the group they're
worried about. We're the group that can cause the ruination
of his plans to conclude agreements that will vivisect Israel
and destroy any hopes for Israel's survival.
The Kahanists have been working on youth:
We've gone to high schools, we've gone to junior high schools,
we've gone to religious schools, we've gone to public schools
and we've been working relentlessly on the youth in Israel. And
the youth in Israel feel a spiritual void. They feel a void because
their leaders have lied to them, because their people are being
killed all the time with terrorist attacks, because they see that
they're under seige from Arab Muslims who promise to
exterminate not only all Jews but all non-Muslims. And the
youth of Israel who have not yet been brainwashed, who have
not yet been what we call "kikified" they haven't been turned
into good little kikes who will go into the ovens and the gas
chambers the youth are responding very strongly to this
message. We had a demonstration in Tel Aviv last month,
and we had half a million people show up for that demonstration.
Even the police said it was 250,000, and the police in Tel Aviv
are very left wing and always underestimate our crowd size. So
there's no question that there is something happening. And if
there is any holdup in the negotiations and the negotiations
have been completed; they have an agreement in principle
to give them the Golan Heights he's holding back because
he knows the people do not support him right now. And even
the media have been saying that the Kahanists have been
creating this problem among our youth.
You've been pretty tough on all the presidential
candidates: The site refers to "Jorge Bush" and "Al
Whore," and you call Bill Bradley "another monstrous
traitor." Do you see any viable candidate right now?
Well the word "viable" creates the problem there. I like
Alan Keyes when I say "I" I mean "we," because I don't make
the decisions for the group. We like Alan Keyes, but
unfortunately he can't win. We think there's a need for
a right-wing third party in this country that will finally
create a basis for resistance to policies that we think
are destroying this country. America is on its way to becoming
a third-world majority country. Everybody knows that; all the
statisticians agree. The only dispute is about when. We see
that as very alarming. Everybody else seems to welcome it
as something wonderful. We think it's horrible and alarming,
and we think it's the end of this country if that happens. We
desperately want to put together a right-wing movement in
this country that will respond to that and save America. America
was built by white Anglos who made
this a great country. And I know it creates terrible hysterical
condemnation when somebody speaks like this, but it is my
belief that if the white Anglo majority becomes a minority
that will be the end of America, and that will be a terrible
tragedy for everyone.
At least some white Anglos in the United States have a
long history of anti-semitism.
That might be true, but the Kahanist movement believes that
America is what God intended for the righteous gentiles. We're
a religious movement, and we believe God intended Israel to be
a Jewish nation, and for Jews to return there, restore the land
of the Bible, rebuild the holy temple, and do all the things that
the Bible says have to be done. And all the lands outside of
Israel are supposed to be run by the righteous gentiles. The
righteous gentiles are supposed to be running things in
America. Unfortunately the gentiles running things in this
country are anything but righteous. But we believe America
is the symbol of what God intends for the righteous gentiles.
We don't want power in this country; as Jews, our dream is
for Israel. But our goal is to help righteous gentiles.
Patriotic Americans, Bible-believing Americans, Americans
who understand what is necessary to preserve this country they
should be the ones to take power. And we believe a movement
should be built geared toward doing that. Even if that movement
can't win in this election, we have to start setting the foundation.
Most of your strongest comments about "self-hating super-kike
Steven Spielberg," former mayor Ed Koch's "ugly, bald Jewish
head," and so on have been reserved for other Jews. Can you give
some examples of Jews you would consider righteous?
The righteous Jews are the brave Kahanist Jewish pioneers who are in
Judea and Samaria now and are fighting to save the land of Israel from
the clutches of self-hating Jewish traitors who want to hand the little
homeland the Jews have over to our enemies. The Arabs have over
600 times the land that little Israel has, and little Israel is literally
self-destructing because of its traitorous leaders. And the Kahanist
Jews are the only hope for preventing that. They're the righteous
Jews. To me, they're the example of a light unto the nations.
How about righteous gentiles?
It's very hard to find many in politics, because politicians are
usually not righteous people. I think Jesse Helms is a righteous
person. He saved my life when I was in prison. I spent five years
in prison for my efforts on behalf of Soviet Jewry when I was the
national chairman of the Jewish Defense League. I only eat kosher
food, so I was starving because many times they wouldn't give it
to me even though the law says they're supposed to. And all the
Jewish senators and congressmen refused to help, of course. Jesse
Helms intervened on my behalf. I mean, I was literally starving to
death. I was down to 98 pounds; I had to be taken to outside
hospitals several times because I was very sick. I almost died.
Jesse Helms not only made calls on my behalf, he threatened to
hold up the whole prison's budget unless this matter was
resolved. They told him, "But he's getting kosher food. This
so-called reformed rabbi says it's kosher." Jesse Helms said,
"There's no way he's getting kosher food. I know what the Bible
says. Either you feed this man, or I'm going to hold hearings, and
if I have to hold up the whole budget I'll hold up the whole
budget." And after that they started to feed me.
And this was a man I could have done nothing for.
I was in prison. I didn't come from his home state. I didn't have
money to give to his campaign. And all the Jews loathe this man.
To me he's an example of a righteous person.
We want to create a parallel movement among righteous white
gentile youth in this country. Just as thousands of Kahanist
Jews invaded new outposts and hilltops in Judea and Samaria,
and put tents and trailers and communities there against the
will of the police and the army, we want to see young white
gentiles invade the offices of the NAACP in this country,
invade the offices of the media in this country. We want to
inspire them to invade the ACLU offices. We want to create
an idealistic movement among the youth in this country like
the Kahanist movement in Israel.
Do you agree with the belief that Jews control the media in
I don't think Jews control the media, but they do play a
disproportionately large role in the media. General Electric,
which owns NBC, is not Jewish. CBS is not owned by Jews.
CNN is Ted Turner. But there's no question that Jews play an
enormous role in the media.
So why do you think coverage of the news is skewed away
from what you consider the truth?
The Jews and the gentiles in the media are all evil people. I
think there's a skewed role because the multinational corporations
that control the media have a stake in trying to break down the
moral values of this great country. They don't want an America
with competition. They don't want an America with entrepreneurs
and competitors who are going to fight them on the stock market
and people who are going to invent great new things. One thing
multinational, multibillion-dollar corporations hate is competition. And
that in a free and moral and great America they would face competition.
So they want this to
be a Third World banana republic. Because in Third World banana
republics like Mexico and Egypt and Syria, there is no
competition. And that's their dream. They want monopoly
control over everything. And they control the media. I believe
that's a campaign that they are conducting.
Is there ever a time when old enemies should just bury the
hatchet and try to get along?
It depends what you mean by old enemies. If it's somebody who
blows up schoolchildren and murders little babies, who commits
holocausts against people and has a religion that says they're
going to wipe out every single person who doesn't adhere to their
religion, then no. If we have a disagreement over taxes that's one
thing. If we have a disagreement over a baseball team that's one thing. If
a disagreement because you want to kill little babies and exterminate
my people, and you believe in a cruel, monstrous religion that has
been doing this, that's already a whole different situation. You know,
the Muslims and the Arabs never think like this. Muslims and Arabs never
think, "Well, isn't it time we buried the hatchet and forgot about all these
things?" This is
Western thinking. Because Jews and Christians are basically kind,
decent people, and they have consciences. They don't want to fight and kill
go to war. They don't want to; it doesn't come naturally to them. But they
have a hard time understanding there are cultures that are totally
that don't think like that at all, and that exploit that type of humane
and view any good gesture as an act of weakness. It's very hard for
to understand that, but there are people like that in this world. And those
people not only surround Israel but are becoming a majority in the
What are your thoughts on the John Rocker controversy?
I think it's an outrage. I think the double standard is obscene. Look at
what the blacks say about white people all the time. And it's never
any big deal. Jesse Jackson said he used to spit in white people's food.
He called Jews hymies and New York Hymietown. He has to this day
a sacred covenant with Louis Farrakhan, who says Hitler was a great
man and that all Jews and all whites are devils. And yet Jesse Jackson
is treated like royalty by the news media. Why is everybody picking
on John Rocker? I mean, what did he really say? All right, even if
you disagree with what he said and I don't, by the way, because I ride
No. 7 train, and I believe every word of what he said is true,
every word. I agree with him 100 percent. I ride that No. 7 train all the
time, and I can completely understand why a young American like him
would be alarmed by what he sees happening to this once-great country.
And I'm happy that there are at least some people who still have eyes
to see. But this is an outrage, what is happening to him. If he were
black, would he be in trouble now, if he had made similar statements
against whites? I don't think so.
You haven't commented on Chechnya. Whom do you support
in that conflict?
Neither one, I hope they both kill each other. Obviously, I can't stand
the Muslim terrorists. They are horrible people. And I don't believe
the Russians have really changed. They're still enemies of this country,
and the same Communist bureaucrats are in charge. They recognize
the Soviet system has been a failure, but they're nevertheless trying
to improvise, and they still want as much of an empire as they can create.
What was the most recent example of a miracle of
divine intervention in public affairs?
recent example of a miracle was a scandal that Americans
didn't even hear of because of the Jew-hating, Arab-loving media
in this country. But there is a tremendous scandal surrounding Ehud
Barak now. He raised huge sums of money illegally from foreign
sources. And he's now facing criminal investigation, and he's been
exposed, and he's in a lot of trouble in Israel. And this is something
that in corrupt Israel never happens, because the establishment
never goes against one of their own and always covers up when
one of their own commits illegal acts. Yet he's been exposed and
he's literally teetering at this point. I think God is rewarding the
Kahanists, those brave young Jews who made those sacrifices in
Israel, by creating problems for Barak. I think now there is serious
question about whether he's going to be able to implement his plans
for Israeli suicide.
Come on, is that really a miracle? That's just corruption that
I think when something happens, which through ordinary natural
means would never [have] happened, against all odds, I believe that's the
hand of God. When God protects Israel against the insanity of its
own leaders, that, to me, is a miracle. The greatest miracle is every
day that Israel survives. You've got 4 million Jews, a nation of
Woody Allens, surrounded by 200 million Arabs, all of whom are
fanatics, all of whom are constantly
training and learning and studying how they're gonna kill the
enemy and learn warfare and be good soldiers of Allah. You know,
200 million people like that surrounding 4 million Jews who
don't even want to defend themselves, who don't even want to
fight back. Yet Israel wins wars in a situation like that? In six
days? That is an incredible miracle. I think the story of America
is a miracle. Thirteen puny, pathetic little colonies developed into the
world's sole remaining superpower, the mightiest nation in the
annals of human history. I think there's a message in both those
miracles. God wants little Israel to prosper; he wants the Jews to
return there. And God wants America to be a nation where the
righteous gentiles rule and are considered an example for the rest
of the world.
I'd imagine you're pretty concerned about free speech issues
There is no free speech in Israel. In Israel you go to jail for
disagreeing with the government. I can't even set foot in Israel.
Why? Because of my views. I mean, it's just an incredible
situation. They have Arabs sitting in Parliament, who openly
call for the destruction of Israel from the Israeli Parliament. That's
OK. But we're all racists because we say they should be expelled.
You were arrested last time you tried to enter Israel. What
reason did the authorities give you for that?
They don't have to charge you with anything. Israeli law has what's
called administrative detention. They only held me for a day and
then threw me out. We have people who have been held for years
under administrative detention. No charge, you do not go before
a judge, you do not have a right to an attorney, you have no right
to see your family unless they give you permission, no right to
contact with the outside world. You are put in prison with no
charge. Avigdor Lieberman, a Soviet Jew who is now a member
of the Parliament, has said that this is worse than the old Soviet
system. How can anybody say that this is a democracy? And yet
we're the only ones saying this is not a real democracy. Everybody
else says, "The only democracy in the Middle East." This is another
example of how things that are universally accepted in our society
are just complete lies.
Thousands of Palestinians have been held in administrative
detention. Did your experience make you any more sympathetic
to their plight?
First of all, there's no such thing as Palestinians. It's a myth. They themselves
said it until the 1960s. And they themselves said in 1964 when they
formed the PLO that they were forming it as a propaganda device to
destroy Israel. There was never a separate Arab people living in
Israel. The Arabs came from Egypt and Syria and immigrated there
after the Jews started to rebuild the land in the 19th century. As far
as Arabs held in administrative detention, I would just ask people
to think of the Jews they know in this country, and the way Jews
in this country cannot wait to put their big noses up every black
behind they can find and apologize to blacks for supposedly
inventing slavery and all these other terrible things, and fund
courses in the universities that say whites are devils and the blacks
were all great scientists and great creators. This is Jewish behavior.
If an Arab is put in prison under administrative detention, you can
be sure there's a damn good reason. You can be sure that we're
talking about something very serious. Look at what they're doing
now. They've freed thousands of Arabs who are admitted
murderers. And the Jews who are put in prison for defending
themselves against Arab terrorists are still in prison. So I really,
uh ... no, I have no sympathy for the Arab terrorists. No
sympathy for the Arabs whatsoever.
So if this is a country where your enemies are treated
better than you are, where you're not even allowed the right
of free expression, where none of your efforts are appreciated,
why bother? America is a welcoming country. Why not just
stay here? Why put all this effort into this tiny, dry strip
Because God commands the Jewish people to return to Israel.
That's the role that God intends for the Jews. I don't believe
God put us on this earth to be comfortable and enjoy ourselves
and live in the most comfortable places. I believe every Jew and
every gentile has a special mission in life that God intends just
for them. And every Jew and gentile should ask themselves,
"What is that mission? Why am I in this world?" Jews are
obligated to go to Israel. That's what the Bible says. The Bible
says the exiles must be regathered in Israel and that they must
take the land of Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates. They must
liberate all that land and rebuild the holy temple in order to be
a light unto the nations. I believe America is a very beautiful,
wonderful country that God has blessed abundantly. But I
believe America is for the gentiles.
You've begun printing letters, both pro and con, from readers
on your site. I saw one today that mentioned "the peace-loving arab
and muslim peoples" and "the wonderful idealists William Kunstler
and Ron Kuby." I feel obliged to ask if you wrote that letter
yourself, because it seems to have your sarcastic tone.
No, I don't write any of the letters. That was a genuine letter written
by somebody who hates our guts. And I don't write any of the letters.
That's one of the few unfavorable letters that was signed. Most of
the people who write to us who hate us are anonymous. That's why
the favorable letters greatly outnumber the unfavorable letters. We
get so many great letters it's hard for me to select. Our show the
television show and the Web site draws an inordinate amount of
mail. You said your site gets 30,000 to 40,000 readers a day. Ours
gets 40,000 a week. Much less. By today's standards that's no big
deal, let's face it. Yet with 40,000 hits a week, you wouldn't believe
the mail we get. I think we get more mail than sites that get 400,000
or 500,000 hits a week. Because there's an intensity to what we
write. We're a love/hate site. And that provokes people to write.
We get a tremendous amount of mail, and it's very difficult to
select the best ones.
I get the impression you spend all day on these issues. What
do you do to relax?
This is my life. To me, relaxation is when you achieve something
for the cause. Achieving things for a good cause is for me the
real exhilaration of life. When somebody does something sinful,
whether sex or drugs or gambling or whatever, the enjoyment from
that doesn't last. You can't say, "I smoked a joint yesterday, and it
was great. Now I'm contented." You have to smoke another
joint. The same thing with sex or gambling or anything. On the
other hand, when you achieve something good, that stays with
you. And God gave us the ability to understand that that is true
happiness: accomplishing great things for a noble cause.
Are you married?
Ever served in the military?
No. I don't think they'd accept me because of my criminal record.
Most of what you achieve is through the media appearing on
television, speaking, and so on. Are there other media people you
admire out there? Do you like Howard Stern or any other TV or
Honestly and I know this really sounds very negative I don't see
people telling the truth. I don't see people willing to say unpopular
things and take all the knocks for that. That to me is the mark of
a great person. Somebody who is willing to stand up and let the
chips fall where they may but tell the truth, tell what they believe
to be the truth. I really don't see that. I see everybody afraid and
cowering to one degree or another. And our goal in America is
to change that mentality.
The JTF television show can be
seen Sunday and Thursday nights
in Manhattan on channel 56 and
Tuesday and Thursday nights in
Queens on channel 35.
Videocassettes and updates are
available at JTF.org.
During our last campaign 2000
editorial meeting, one senior
staffer well, actually a temp
who made a lot of personal phone
calls noted that with John
McCain's win in New Hampshire,
we could expect to see some
reporter somewhere using the
headline "The McCain Mutiny"
sometime soon. But who knew it'd
be Time magazine? And for this
week's cover story! Knowing how
our friends in the daily
deadline world of political
journalism can always use a
grabber (and apparently nothing
grabs like a bad pun), we at
Suck present the following for
their use. And please, Mr.
Pearlstine, don't hog them all.
Bush's Bad Boy Gets an SC
McCaining a handy catchall
for Bush's upcoming loss in the
No Pain, No McCain perfect
for stories on McCain's penchant
for saying things voters don't
want to hear
They McCain't Stand Him
good for writing up how Trent
Lott and the rest of the GOP
establishment despise their
McCainnery Row Now that's
a pip. Use this when describing
a long list of McCain endorsees,
fund raisers, or, if you can
restrain yourself until he wins
it all, for when he's picked his
No McCain, No Gain Some
might carp on the similarity to
the above listing, but with your
deadlines, you probably won't be
so picky after a few more weeks.
It's good for writing up McCain
as the only candidate who can
beat Gore. We actually might
give this one to his delegates
at the convention. It's just the
sort of bumper sticker slogan to
wave at the cameras when Alan
Keyes gets his
McCain't Stop the Music
um, maybe for the inaugural
McCain's Navy This is an
easy one for military stories,
etc. Maybe he'll he attend a
Kennedy Center performance
honoring Ernest Borgnine. It
McCaindid Camera This
sidebar blurb will be perfect if
he gets caught kissing the wife
or something. Cute. Definitely a
McCain He Really Do It?
That's for when Bush is
teetering on Super Tuesday and
McCain might pull off a mammoth
upset. You can just feel the
suspense, cain't you?
McCaindide Well, it could
turn out that the senator has a
passion for French literature.
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We'd do a list of Bush puns, but
we all know where that would
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